Talon likes B pretty well! He wouldn't consider him a friend yet (or anyone tbh), but he does feel like he can trust him. It's always appreciated when someone treats him like an equal which is the impression he got from their threads. He doesn't get the impression that B is trying to shelter him from the truly awful aspects of this place and feels pretty confident that if he has questions he can't get answered elsewhere, he can come to B for some honest answers.
B also manages to put him at ease in general. With a lot of people, Talon is constantly reminded of how different he is in the way he speaks or behaves, but he doesn't find himself thinking about it much with B. I think it's because with B, Talon doesn't notice him noticing it, so he doesn't feel quite so out of place talking with him. It allows him to be more at ease and focus on what B is saying vs trying to read between the lines of what B is saying, basically.
As for B as a person, Talon is more or less ambivalent. He recognizes that B's a good person and is glad Silver has him for a friend, but he's not really the kind of person Talon would seek out for company on his own. That said he's probably still going to here if only because B's proven himself trustworthy, and just because Talon wouldn't pick him out for company in another situation doesn't mean he's bad company to have. He has good advice to give, and he seems like he knows how to have fun (even if Talon doesn't quite get it at the start). Talon's just going to have to put a little effort in on his end, and he doesn't think he's going to mind doing that in this case.
He's a good kid and B respects his desire to be informed of things. Talon seems overly serious but that's not necessarily a bad thing and he knows for a fact that Silver is extremely good at drawing out smiles and aggravating people into laughter. He's pretty sure Silver will make sure he has some fun.
On one hand he's automatically worried for any child in Imeeji but. While B doesn't really like WC as a unit he recognizes they will keep Talon as safe as possible and that's a good thing. And as Talon seems like a logical kid he will hopefully not get too caught up in the eventual dramatics of trauma games and while not...being okay...he can get through it hopefully.
As for his unchildish, stiff, self serious behavior? Honestly? Seems perfectly normal to B considering the situation at hand. It mostly marks him as very bright and aware. Which will get you far.
And B doesn't mind helping, he quite likes it actually. Delivering bad news sucks but its a little rewarding when the person he's telling realizes hey, this stuff actually IS important. He feels a little bad for him though because he has a hard time seeing Intensity letting Talon into the plot further any time soon. But hey, good luck.
Well first off he doesn't believe any of this is related to a literal heaven or hell as represented in any religion. More likely it's some other world with beings that seem demonic and/or angelic that people just named heaven and hell because people are bad at originality. He does think there may be some mind-warping aspect of it, but not 100% sold on it being that instead of just being warped by going through the games here.
Since R&D is in charge of the interdimensional aspects he is very confident that there is some kind of machine/device that's being used to pick people and bring them here from their home dimension is time. That's a pretty big relief to him, because a device can be stolen if small enough, and buildings housing larger machinery can be stormed to gain access to them. It promises an easier (but still v e r y difficult) escape one day, as far as he believes.
Believes the dimension Exael in is somehow overlaid with this world or another and that is why there are shadowy figures--the shadows of another dimension as viewed from the realm Exael is in.
Uhhh he's also real concerned about the audience and thinks they should also be freed when/if everyone manages to escape. It sure does not seem like they want or really deserve to be here either.
Overall he's pretty deeply alarmed and overwhelmed thinking about it, but there are bits and pieces of it that give him something to direct hopes and focus toward. He very much wants to be involved with it going forward and will make an absolute nuisance of himself to get the access and involvement he wants.
B hated Betrayal House most because it robbed people of their agency and forced others to put the face of their friends on traumas. Or face of randos in the case of Whisky hurting B. The House lended itself to a lot of SEXY MURDER~~~ as well which B is SUPER NOT HERE FOR. He missed out on it but he's fully aware of how fucked up E came out of that game and is just so scared of anything similar ever happening again. There was torture in that house too and like. What a fucking nightmare. Especially now that B knows SUICIDE WILL NOT SAVE YOU. You will go to Lilith. Suicide cannot save you from torture, it just sends you to a different torture. There truly is no winning.
He has not and may not for a while yet. He is avoiding FiN unless approached since Moreau is on that team, and he's been warned about how dangerous that guy is. Big villain full of abuse and shit from Aries and Haruto's world. And since Talon has no memories of doing any heroics or assassin missions, or even any kind of combat training at all, he has absolutely no confidence in facing or catching the attention of a genuinely dangerous person. He's just a baby teen who is frankly kind of scared of getting seriously hurt, or doing something that might prompt Moreau to hurt other members of Wild City. He is keeping an eye out to see if he can spot Intensity alone in public somewhere, but he's not gonna go out of his way to go find him specifically just yet.
Alcheme is pretty alright! He's not going to pretend they're all close or even sane. He kind of can't. A seems to be some kind of narcissist with a bit of a violence problem. C sabotages himself constantly for seemingly no reason besides Connections and Emotions scar him. E is trying to be an island. N is. Swimming in the water surrounding the island he's been there for eight hours N please come out of the water N are you trying to disassociate in there N PLEASE. And X while a fibber like the rest of them seems dangerously like he buys into his own lies which for B in particular is like OH NO BUDDY. SEEMS BAD, BUDDY. Crow is. Well, Crow is also not okay but he's very okay with how not okay he is at least?
But B loves them because they're what he has and he's not being bossed around or anything. He has a lot of freedom. On one hand he doesn't trust them to have his back in games and go along with what he wants but. He does trust that they all want him safe and are just trying with their different versions of best. So. He fully expects them all, even C, to kill his loved ones in games and be like. SHRUG. But. That is what it is and he can't change it and B just has to remind himself that it hasn't happened yet so don't worry until it does. And when it does well. That's just a thing that happens and everyone has different priorities and he can't expect their priorities to line up. And they're not doing it to hurt him. Unless they are. But only A or C would do those things and. Well. That seems unlikely to be directed at him.
He thinks they work pretty decently together and doesn't mind having them around! He's closest to C of course, with E and N coming after. But he cares for them all, wants to dote on them all, and in general find ways to make them happy.
Self fulfilling prophecy. There's a lot of cool powers, but he would take advantage of that one to chain series of predicted events together to achieve some greater outcome. It looks like the kind of power that seems silly and not super useful until end game happens and Alcheme predicts their way into punching some host's head off. Or something like that. Especially with the whole unit having access to that power; a little creative planning and they can achieve a lot with it. Talon doesn't have any specific ideas for it right now, but he's real curious to see how far it can be taken one day.
Aside from Silver, who are B's top 3 fave off unit people?
Gold: his boyfriend. Really good at making B feel calmer. Full of compliments and kindness. Picks him up for maximum swooning. Has good talks about troubles with.
Mori: his hero. Very kind but also sassy, plays along well with things. Makes B feel safe.
99: this is his bad friend who is bad but he loves him. 99 is an assholes but because he's an asshole B can be one too. They talk about "work" a lot which is the plot of the game. It's a good chance for B to get thoughts out since the others don't show toooo much interest in bigger picture stuff.
The fuckin scar opening power. Talon's got a couple of scars that'd be suuuuper fatal if opened so. that's fun. He's only not removing them because WC has an alliance with them right now and he wants his memories so bad.
Bonus 2nd place: the memory fuckery ability that BE=DE has. Kid's already upset enough about losing all his memories in the first place. The idea that someone can come in and alter a memory after he regains it is upsetting on a level he can't even express.
Okami he finds to be an obnoxious asshole who can't understand that different people have different viewpoints. Wants to get along but genuinely just cannot with him.
Whisky cuz he ate B's flesh and made him pet him afterwards in the Betrayal House. While B knows that wasn't him he still can't really be near him either. And he didn't really enjoy him previously either.
The doctor. B doesn't know what he did but it had to be something and mmmm fuck off, weird adult.
Three people Talon is interested in knowing better?
Gold, because his fave is Silver and he does feel a sense of obligation to know his twin a little bit. Plus Gold didn't annoy him the one time they met.
Pharoah because Talon is a feral child with no taste in who he thinks is cool.
He's probably going to quite enjoy Self Care lives because he loves to be pampered. Photography is also super in line with what he enjoys!! But overall even when he enjoys lives at the end of the day they're all Work.
What kind of backstories/home lives does talon imagine people have? Like what does he think Pharoah was doing pre-Imeeji?
Pharoah told him he was immortal in the secrets game while under the truth effect, so Talon assumes he was some kind of god or blessed with a god and led a life full of RAD ADVENTURE and BEING ADORED and shit and wants to see all of his memories.
Hmm he knows bits of most teammate backgrounds, but for Whisky he assumes the guy was some kind of assassin. Maybe an actual murderer? For a while he thought Whisky was one of those bad guy with a heart of gold types, but then in the secrets game he was all "I'll do it for money" so he's not sure what to think of it now.
I'm trying to think of someone he doesn't have good clues about. Like Req and her bass from home. Uhhhh if he had to guess at C's background he'd guess escaped lab experiment. Maybe a less dangerous but somehow still worse Frankenstein's monster.
Most people he just assumes had normal lives before getting brought here tho. Just going to school or work and having family bonding time. He hasn't put much thought into trying to guess at anyone's past yet. Just not something he thinks about when there's so much present in Imeeji to deal with instead.
If B could rearrange teams however he wanted, what changes would he make?
Okay, so. Damian's impression of sensitIV as a whole comes from two things:
1. An overall impression of Imeeji he got from Aries on his first day 2. A more detailed history of sensitIV and Wild City he got from Lyon in the secrets game. 3. A discussion he had with Whisky about what he learned from Lyon.
The first point really colors his impression of all teams in general, but I think it gives important context to his views on sensitIV, Bad End, and FiN specifically since he has been cautioned about them for various reason. He was cautioned about sensitIV initially because he arrived while WC was in negotiations for an alliance with them, which was only mentioned in passing. He knew nothing else about them and mentally filled in the blanks by himself, and his assumption at the time was something like "this is a strong/useful(?) team", because otherwise why would WC want to ally with them specifically?
He was also a little concerned that there had to be negotiations at all since it suggested there was ssssome sort of tension involved that needed to be resolved before the alliance could be established. Talon didn't make many assumptions regarding what those tensions might be though, mostly because he had more specific and alarming information about FiN to worry about, so he just had a vague sense of Something Going On there, and that's the attitude he met Lyon with! He very specifically approached him to try to get information about the alliance/negotiation since at the time he was still on an info-diet with Silver until he settled in. And boy did he get some info from Lyon. :')
So the first shift in his view of sensitIV happened right about here when he realized Lyon's biggest issue wasn't with WC specifically, but with his own inability to get over whatever had happened between them. It killed a lot of the suspicion he'd been building up in that thread and gave him a more sympathetic, almost worried view of them. Like--he was beginning to think that the tension (which he still didn't have much information on at all) was something that could be overcome, and that's why he pushed Lyon to talk to people on his team about it a little more; to start working through those feelings.
Everyone thank Silver for teaching Talon from day one that talking about feelings is probably a good idea.
Anyway, Lyon began to explain the history between WC and sensitIV in that same thread, as well as some of the unit's actions that weren't strictly related to things WC did (but did have an influence on it), and he talked with Whisky later who filled in some more details for him. For a quick summary as Talon remembers (and as he places emphasis on it):
1. There was a cannibalistic game called The Last Supper which required units to attack and devour each other. If a unit refused to attack, the unit they were matched against in that round would ??? (Talon has assumed they succumbed to madness and devoured their own unit's Heart which! Is pretty gut wrenchingly horrible!) 2. Talon knows Wild City refused to attack sensitIV 3. And that it was Haruto's decision 4. Which was due to a grudge he held from a previous game. Talon did not ask further about this, but assumes it was a death on WC that was caused by sensitIV, most likely Aries or Silver based on what he knows of Haruto's relationships now. 5. He knows Haruto's grudge was caused by someone who was not in their right mind on sensitIV 6. There was another game referred to as The Trial. Talon does not know what took place in The Trial, but does know that sensitIV "made it very clear" that they are capable of opening up peoples' old scars. Talon assumes this was presented as an absolute threat to scare people off of attacking sensitIV in future games. He also knows Lyon was not present for this. 7. The alliance between the two units was formed in spite of all of this.
So! Overall Talon understands that the history between WC and sensitIV is extremely complicated and that it's a confusing mess of intentional and unintentional actions that can't really be picked apart with any kind of logic. People were hurt very badly and very deeply, and he can understand it well enough to see why neither side can let go of the hurt was done. He doesn't see sensitIV as a team of villains so much as another team that has been hurt and damaged and just wants very desperately to be safe. It's not too unlike the way he looks at Wild City, but obvs he has much more bias for WC members because he knows them much more closely and is building bonds and attachments to them that he just isn't ever going to with sensitIV.
That all said, he does still consider sensitIV a potential threat that is only being held back because of the alliance that's in place now. He doesn't think that they have a good understanding of the fact that WC has as much reason to fear and hate them as they do to fear and hate WC. He thinks they're too blinded by the hurt that's been done to them to really see past it, and he's pretty confident that makes them dangerous. Without the alliance in place, Talon is sure they would be a pretty high risk of lashing out against WC in games, so he's going to be especially cautious not to do anything that he believes would put the alliance at risk.
He is also very deeply alarmed by the threat about opening up scars since he has multiple scars that would be unavoidably fatal if opened. :') While he doesn't think he's in actual danger of that right now, it is something he tried to explain to Lyon because he believes they need to understand the actual weight of what a threat like that means to people. If not for the alliance, Talon would be terrified of them until he got his scars removed. As things stand right now he doesn't feel threatened enough to spend the points on it, but if the alliance ever fell through for some reason, then removing his scars would be the very first thing he did.
I feel like I rambled a bit but tl;dr: he thinks sensitIV is one of the most dangerous units here, but does not blame them for developing into that kind of unit and believes he is currently not in danger from them thanks to the alliance between their units.
What are Kija's specific concerns about sensitIV right now?
I love tl;dr so I gobbled all of this up! And actually, it filled me in on some of the things I wasn't yet aware of regarding relations between SensitIV and Wild City! Especially since Levi is somewhat in the dark regarding some of these events, although he HAS been filled in on the Trial and the reasons behind SensitIV's actions at that time.
(Also chin handing at Talon mentioning Levi =3 )
Since talking a little more with Persephone, Leviathan has come to understand a bit more regarding some of his unit's actions. At first, he noticed that there were people who were very uneasy around him. Not everyone, but he quickly came to realize that there were some people out there that were uncomfortable with SensitIV, despite the fact that SensitIV was a healing unit. B was the first person to explain to him a little of what happened recently that likely resulted in that fear. He learned that at the Trial game, his own unit opened up the wounds of many others, and as a result, it killed a number of people. He later heard even more about the event from Cobalt.
What he learned further from Cobalt was that, traditionally, SensitIV has not been viewed as an offensive unit. But in Cobalt's explanation, he said that without warning or any real explanation, Levi's own unit undid the wounds of the other units present to prove a point. This troubled him even more because he wasn't aware of the specifics of the game, or what reason his own team could possibly have for attacking everyone else in such a manner. This was due to the fact that the conversation led him to believe there were other options his team could have taken that wouldn't have resulted in harming others. Kija can get pretty bloodlusty about fighting, but he also doesn't go out of his way to harm people or try to inflict true injury on a person if it can be helped.
To top off his first impressions, it didn't help that, while everyone in his unit was friendly toward him upon arrival, everyone was....incredibly exhausted and kind of dead to the world. Because they had all just experienced some personal trauma on various levels, and due to the fact that there have been some disagreements within his unit. Levi, however, didn't know about the disagreements and trouble within his unit, so much as everyone was unprepared for a new member to suddenly arrive.
It wasn't until later that he confronted Persephone and asked for an explanation of some kind. His conversation with Perse, however, relieved him somewhat and helped alleviate his worries to an extent (regarding being part of a villain unit. Not about the world in general). What he learned in this conversation was that the trial wasn't as black and white as he had been initially led to believe. He learned that prior to the game, the world had begun to fall apart. People began to lose their memories and the world was turning gray. HSS and BD=DE had banned together to try and figure out how to stop it, but that somehow in their doing so they were possessed and conducted a trial. For this trial, the teams had to prove their team unity and cohesion to the exclusion of other teams. The two losing teams were to be exacuted.
One of SensitiV's unitmates who is no longer there had tried to display unity by having a public breakdown in order to showcase one of their unit traits, but she had refused to otherwise participate. As a result, the judges tortured her in front of the rest of SensitIV. Ultimately, one of the other SensitIV members in the group put an end to everything when they opened up the wounds of the other units present to prove their cohesion as a unit-- which helped them win and stop the game. He suspects that it was Luciful, since he's apologized to Kija in the past and told him that whatever problems he experiences in the unit is probably due to him.
While Levi doesn't know how he feels about what occurred, or what he might have done had he been in their shoes, he doesn't think they had any good choices available to them. As such, he can't blame them for the actions they took at the trial. Particularly in light of watching their friend and unitmate tortured, seeing the world begin to unravel, and knowing that losing meant death to them as a whole. So while none of it makes him happy, he isn't angry or disappointed by the actions they took, because he felt they were desperate and had done their best in an incredibly terrible situation.
Now, he mostly worries about what actions other people might take against his unitmates due to what they did at the trial. He understands the upset and horror people likely experienced as a result, but he wants to protect his unit members from being targetted for the decision they had made in a real desperate situation.
Friendship is a myth made up by babies and Kryptonians.
But Marceline is pretty great in his opinion. She's another one that he doesn't feel the need to guess at motivations for; gets the impression that what she says is what she means, and that she is actually taking him seriously even if she's totes wrong that he's a kid!!! He is going to tell himself that he doesn't really like her because she calls him a kid or tween or whatever, but if he were somehow forced to list friends he would think very hard about naming her probably. Which is a pretty impressive level to reach after one whole thread.
He really appreciates someone who can understand wanting to get all memories back even if there may be A Lot to confront and reconcile with in them. It's something that he has trouble explaining, particularly because he's so new and just can't really pin the reasons down, so it's comforting to just have a shared understanding there. It also gave him the impression that she's been dealing with rough issues in her memories which doesn't mean much for him right now, but as he starts to regain some of the horseshit he's been through it may mean he seeks her out to talk about some of it with. (That is also thanks to the bonus points she gets by being friends with other members of Wild City tho.)
So, as with most people, Marcy doesn't form tight attachments right away!! But Talon benefits from being part of Wild City AND being a younger kid so she's already kinda endeared to him. She's naturally attracted to strong personalities that range more on the excited/punchy/fighty side as opposed to the haughty/egotistical/intolerable side because those kind of people are fun, and even if Talon doesn't understand how to fun yet she figured he'll learn eventually. Kinda hard to escape in this place.
She doesn't have any super strong feelings for him though, just yet, and mostly seems him as a potential friend and someone she can hang out with in the future. He's pretty cool! So she wants to see how he grows, too, since he seems like one of the youngest people in Fauxkyo.
y even tho he only knows Ozy in passing, Talon's impressed with the strength of his presence and confidence and is pretty naturally drawn to him. He doesn't consider him a threat either since as far as he's seen Silver is pretty relaxed around him, and he's not on any of the team's Talon's been warned about. He doesn't have a good read on who he is as a person except for like. Maximum confidence and doesn't seem to be mean. So clearly this is exactly the kind of person a 13 year old thinks is very cool and wants to get to know better.
Whisky!! Talon really likes him; guy places in his top 3 favorite people here.
The biggest point in his favor is how completely at ease Whisky always manages to put him at. It's especially obvious in their latest thread where, even though Talon flat out did not realize it was him at first, he was still relaxed enough just due to Whisky's personality that he didn't mind getting a hair pet. It was surprising even to me since Talon's at a point where he'll kick up at least some level of fuss for anyone outside of Wild City, but Whisky managed to just slip right past that whether Talon knows it's him or not.
Talon trusts him pretty implicitly and will let his guard drop while Whisky's around, because he trusts that Whisky will keep an eye out if he just takes a few minutes to actually let himself relax. And although he recognizes that Whisky does see him as a kid, he does feel like he can get honest answers to hard questions from him. That and being a member of Wild City mean Talon will accept some level of sheltering from Whisky too, if it comes up. Trusts him to take Talon seriously when it matters, and trusts him to have Talon's best interests in mind.
That all said he is p r e t t y uncomfortable with Whisky's stance on murder. I'm not sure how that's going to change once he gets his own assassin memories, but right now he just can't wrap his mind around being willing to kill for something as trivial as money or points or whatever. The only reason he let it drop is because he's innocent enough right now to believe no one's actually ever going to pay Whisky to kill here, so clearly it's not a real concern that matters.
Whisky liked Talon pretty readily! For Whisky's style of liking people. As an amnesiac he's a pretty blunt, straightforward person -- and Talon gelled well with that in not being too sensitive (for the most part) to deal with Whisky's ... Whiskiness. Basically it's the polar opposite from how John started out, and Whisky overall didn't view John as someone who fit well with the unit (even though he liked him). The fact that Talon off the bat seemed willing to buy into Wild City as a "unit" and not just "the place I happened to end up" won points in his favor. Whisky has really grown to be a very unit-y type despite literally every part of his canon pre-disposing him towards NOT being teammy so any newbie who buys into that wins brownie points in his eyes.
Whisky in general does well with. Weirdos. Like he's dating Aradia and Lucifel who are both very Off in a sense interaction-wise, so Talon being a very precocious-seeming child fit right into that. Asirpa from his canon is leeess weird child but definitely still has seen some SHIT for her age so he treats Talon in the same sort of light. He won't baby him per se but will be roughly as protective of him as he is as Silver.
It's hard for him to see eye to eye on Talon as far as morality goes as someone who inherently has a pretty fucked idea about the value of life -- or more accurately what one should be feeling killing another person. He realizes Talon's sentiment is a common one but he's also not likely to be dishonest about his own feelings on the matter. Whisky's only concern is if it comes up during a game where there might be HAIRY CHOICES as far as protecting Wild City goes (LOOKS AT WAR ROOM GAME EXCITEDLY)
Someone from Steven Universe. I nearly apped Rose Quartz instead of Damian, but was waiting to see if new flashback canon showed up for her in the episode bomb that was coming out. I am still VERY tempted and would prob put her on Baritones if I did. Other options are Amethyst to bad end or alcheme, or Pearl to lilis or avant en garde. or taisho.
Rose I am drawn to because her upbringing is just extremely real, and I think I'd have fun exploring that and exploring her being stuck having relationships with people in a closed environment where she can just wander off with the next shiny human she sees when she starts feeling bored.
Amethyst because. Look. I love trash piles who love people and grow from being bad at people/being a person to being good at both those things.
And Pearl because sometimes you just want to play a good lesbian mom with a lot of emotional baggage that she doesn't know what to do with.
also I would change their hair every single time they died even if they have to just cut it themselves.
What are some qualities of your ideal games to play Whisky or Moreau in? Traumatic, non? Specific conflicts they force teams to deal with? Stuff like that.
BETRAYAL AND HUNGER GAMES WERE BOTH FUN FOR WHISKY mostly because they were less "acting as a a unit" and more just individual "how is your capacity to murder people". Whisky doesn't care if Wild City gets a bad reputation because of him per se but it's much less complicated if it's more of a free for all. Hunger games specifically as fun for me personally because Whisky has had a relatively! chill run in Imeeji so far but he got to be a real dick.
Honestly haven't /won't play Moreau in enough games to get a sense for him but w/e!!!
MEMORY YOU'RE MOST LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING BACK FOR TALON
Geez that's a tough one because there are so many good ones like
Damian casually telling his 10 year old bff about going through starvation training. or about his mom murdering his favorite teacher and chucking him in the ocean
or the time one of his brothers admitted he would've adopted Damian if he could
or the time Joker tricked everyone into thinking he cut off all the batkids faces and then made Bruce set them on fire and then dosed them all with his laugh gas so they'd fight to the death
or having a half billion dollar bounty on his head that one time
I guess most immediately a memory that highlights just how bad a mom he actually has, since right now he has as positive a view of her as a kid can have about their mom, and that realization would have some lasting impact in how he behaves and deals with people for a while.
SUGIMOTO AND ASIRPA!!!!!!!!!!!! Sugimoto is his RIVAL and they act like children around each other. Asirpa is the only one in canon who has seemed to genuinely be able to connect with Ogata so far and they have a really really good dynamic since Asirpa is very anti-murder and Ogata has a HISTORY with very "pure" people like that.
TALIA aka Damian's mom would be fuckin' amazing, but either before her characterization got fucked over so Damian could get the worst childhood ever, or from Rebirth when her fucked characterization got physically removed from her so she could be a good character again. I'm not actually super familiar with her characterization when she's not being World's Worst Mom, but I know it's WAY BETTER THAN BEING THAT, and I would enjoy getting to play with the two of them trying to figure out how to be just a mom and son together, with the knowledge of all the horseshit that happened in canon.
BATMAN because like. Look. It's Batman and Damian's dad, and I think it would be real interesting to have both of them going through amnesia growth arcs where they're both removed from all the trauma that's shaped them. I'm pretty sure they'd be able to connect much better, and it'd be really valuable for Bruce to get to see Damian's memories and reactions to them and generally just be a chance to establish a better relationship than canon is ever going to let them have.
NIGHTWING aka Dick Grayson, the brother Damian loves the most (in that he will probably admit to loving Dick.) Dick got to spend a year raising Damian and was the Batman to his Robin while they thought Bruce was dead. Is also the one who admitted he would've probably adopted him if Bruce hadn't come back. Also Dick should really be around when Damian finds out what a Talon is in canon because only he can truly appreciate just how hilariously bad that is.
JASON TODD aka Red Hood aka the worst bat son. Was the 2nd Robin, got killed, got better but only kind of and now he's a big ol antihero who absolutely will not stop doing murders. His super power is GUN. He's the batkid who is of the opinion that you have to murder villains to stop villains. It's a real point of conflict with Bruce. BUT he is a good guy at heart, even if sometimes he goes off the rails and tries to murder his brothers a little bit. He's the reason Damian needed a new spine, but also tried to mentor him recently in canon and they have some good bro time together. I would want him on Wild City just to see how that goes :U
TIM DRAKE aka the brother that Damian has tried to kill at least a couple of times. To be fair Tim also has Damian on a hit list of "in case they go crazy and try to destroy the world". That's basically the same right??? They super do not get along (though probably there is some neutral interaction that I haven't gotten around to reading yet), but that's largely because Damian was an absolute feral murder child who tried to murder him when he first showed up. Would be cool to see how that changes with amnesia.
There is also CASSANDRA (Black Bat) and STEPHANIE BROWN (Bat Girl) who I am less familiar with because I haven't read their runs yet. But Cass is Damian's sister who was also raised to be an assassin but is VERY NOT OKAY with murder at all, from what I know. And Steph is another Robin who was killed and then kicked out because Bruce has no idea how to deal with dead Robins that aren't Damian. But she's adorable and a delight and I know has some cute interactions with Damian too. :U
uhhh also all references to brothers and sister are due to adoption. Damian has no blood siblings that can be apped anywhere.
OH SHIT ALSO JON KENT FROM SUPERMAN AND SUPERSONS who is Superman's kid and a little ball of joy and sunshine and Damian's best friend. They regularly get lost in space together and fight crime and have sleepovers and shit, and he is probably the only person Damian will call a friend any time soon. Also Damian will lose every single shit if he shows up (once he remembers how much of a shit he gives about Jon).
TALON THINKS that he is settling in just great. He's doing all this good info gathering and learning about the plot and about the teams he's been warned about. He's especially proud of the information he's gained about sensitIV and is busy thinking about how he can work with Leviathan to get the teams to reconcile more than they have. He's glad the alliance is in place, but would like it to be in place with a more solid foundation to support it, basically. He's also been practicing trying to gather information subtly (he believes he is being subtle), focusing on anything he thinks might be helpful to WC. Generally just is running around doing STUFF to try to be a good and useful member of the unit because that's what he's decided he needs to do. And he's pretty sure he's doing a good job because nothing has been ruined yet and people seem to like him for some reason; even people from teams he's been cautioned about!
TALON ACTUALLY is doing okay on all the stuff he thinks he is (except for being subtle), butttt that is not actually going to help him settle. So much of the information he's learning about is past trauma games or how awful the producers and plot are and how fucked everything is in general. And for the time being he is doing alright just hearing things out and telling himself he accepts and understands it, but what is actually happening is that he's setting himself more and more on edge. He's building up an understanding of how terrifying everything can be, which in turn is building up an expectation that everything is going to go terribly. And even if that's true it's still putting a lot of stress on him and helping maintain his suspicious outlook towards anyone he hasn't already met.
For example, he won't be able to meet new members of sensitIV without thinking about how they could just kill him without even blinking (not because he thinks they're evil, just because they literally have a power that can do that). Or like. Just meeting someone new and wondering if they think WC is the worst because of some old game he doesn't know about. He's just got a predisposition to being a little paranoid and it's being exacerbated the more he learns about things here. It is a very good thing that Silver is around to reassure him, and that so many people he's met so far are just good people who've been endeared with him for whatever reason. They're keeping him from starting any kind of stress/paranoia spiral, but like. Cannot stop the stress-motivated drive to seek out more and more information to try to solve the problem of how bad everything here is.
Damian is pretty certain that John doesn't like him, which really just means he appreciates being tolerated well enough to get the medical lessons he's after. He's not sure why John doesn't like him, but frankly he doesn't care about the why behind it. He's been thinking of himself as an abrasive person for a while, so it's actually kind of reassuring to have someone around behaving the way he expects them to. He also believes John is honest in a way that other people aren't with him, in that he doesn't try to soften his reactions or responses to Talon as far as the kid can tell. He appreciates it and does want to build up more of a relationship with him, but one that is businesslike vs any kind of camaraderie. Again, it's just nice to have someone around that he doesn't think is going to pull any punches with him.
John is not interacting with Talon as a person yet. He is purely a ball of 'fuck' that John interacts with as minimally as possible. Whatever gets Talon out of his space as quickly as possible John does. Whenever John does process him as a person, he will probably be really upset and full of anger in many directions which does not help with the actually processing another person's existence. /upside down smiley
John has a files of different ways to respond if Haruto kills himself, including notes on two past attempts. How would Talon feel about getting those?
Nnnnot super great? But at the same time very appreciative. He has already found out about Haruto's suicidal tendencies from a memory of his, so he's sort of aware but doesn't really register it as a thing that might actually happen. Having notes about past attempts would shake him up pretty badly and prrrobably result in him tailing Haruto everywhere until someone talked to him about it. But at the same time he is definitely smart enough to read and understand the files and use that information to prepare for a potential third attempt which would be reassuring in the long run. Just also upsetting for obvious reasons.
He's doing ... Okay? There hasn't been a difficult game with them yet, but John is trying to balance a lot of thoughts and concerns when it comes to that unit despite that. Trying not to fuck up with a unit again, whee. LiliS is definitely a lot more calm for John which makes it easier to relax around them. There's too many strong personalities and maneuvers that have to happen around Wild City that John could hardly breathe. With LiliS, he can take breaks and is even . . . Weirdly unbusy?? He's unsure what to do with this free time????
Favorite three people that aren't on Wild City for Talon so far?
Leviathan is just so disarmingly earnest and kind that Talon has no real defense against him. He views Levi as being the younger one between them (even tho Levi is 20 and he's 13) and feels a vague sense of protectiveness towards him. Part of that is due to viewing Levi as someone who is too kind and naive to really understand the severity of the situation that being in Imeeji is, and part of it is just because Levi is the very first person he met from another team (at a time when he was already inclined to be extra welcoming to sensitIV).
B is an excellent source of information and has proven himself willing to answer Talon's questions seriously, even if the answer is going to be painful or scary to hear. B's a favorite for what he has to offer rather than who he is as a person, but that's likely to change as they have more threads together.
Thorn is unexpected, because Talon had been very wary of BE=DE because of memory altering shenanigans someone did to Aries. :') But! He met Thorn in the secrets game and asked a question or two to try to suss out if he might be behind it, and ultimately decided he wasn't. And with that concern out of the way he just thinks Thorn is kind of cool? The guy seems to take him seriously and doesn't shy away from talking about escaping and tearing this place to the ground, but also manages to be another calming presence at times. It's reassuring to hear someone else talking about how much this place sucks and also to just have casual, calm conversation with.
Uh, god, that is so complicated . . . Without tearing apart the whole history and evolution of events, right now, John is hurt? He was and is very invested in Wild City, but he also can see where his actions and behavior are untenable for them. He acknowledged that he had no place left there which is why he switched units. Right now, he's skittish because he still expects Aries to come down on him for something he's done . . . And he is also still really worried about Haruto in the worst way. Silver is also a point of concern, but John trusts in Wild City to take care of him and also understands Silver is invested in them? And Whisky is just one of the very few stable relationships John has, so he does not want to axe that yet. Everything that has happened with Wild City just has piled a lot of stress and pain on top of each other which is really informing his relationship with LiliS, so it is a very involved, trauma response to the unit as a whole and individually.
yeah that answered nothing but shh!!! So, baby's first trauma game? How was that?
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B also manages to put him at ease in general. With a lot of people, Talon is constantly reminded of how different he is in the way he speaks or behaves, but he doesn't find himself thinking about it much with B. I think it's because with B, Talon doesn't notice him noticing it, so he doesn't feel quite so out of place talking with him. It allows him to be more at ease and focus on what B is saying vs trying to read between the lines of what B is saying, basically.
As for B as a person, Talon is more or less ambivalent. He recognizes that B's a good person and is glad Silver has him for a friend, but he's not really the kind of person Talon would seek out for company on his own. That said he's probably still going to here if only because B's proven himself trustworthy, and just because Talon wouldn't pick him out for company in another situation doesn't mean he's bad company to have. He has good advice to give, and he seems like he knows how to have fun (even if Talon doesn't quite get it at the start). Talon's just going to have to put a little effort in on his end, and he doesn't think he's going to mind doing that in this case.
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On one hand he's automatically worried for any child in Imeeji but. While B doesn't really like WC as a unit he recognizes they will keep Talon as safe as possible and that's a good thing. And as Talon seems like a logical kid he will hopefully not get too caught up in the eventual dramatics of trauma games and while not...being okay...he can get through it hopefully.
As for his unchildish, stiff, self serious behavior? Honestly? Seems perfectly normal to B considering the situation at hand. It mostly marks him as very bright and aware. Which will get you far.
And B doesn't mind helping, he quite likes it actually. Delivering bad news sucks but its a little rewarding when the person he's telling realizes hey, this stuff actually IS important. He feels a little bad for him though because he has a hard time seeing Intensity letting Talon into the plot further any time soon. But hey, good luck.
What does Talon think of The Plot At Hand?
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Well first off he doesn't believe any of this is related to a literal heaven or hell as represented in any religion. More likely it's some other world with beings that seem demonic and/or angelic that people just named heaven and hell because people are bad at originality. He does think there may be some mind-warping aspect of it, but not 100% sold on it being that instead of just being warped by going through the games here.
Since R&D is in charge of the interdimensional aspects he is very confident that there is some kind of machine/device that's being used to pick people and bring them here from their home dimension is time. That's a pretty big relief to him, because a device can be stolen if small enough, and buildings housing larger machinery can be stormed to gain access to them. It promises an easier (but still v e r y difficult) escape one day, as far as he believes.
Believes the dimension Exael in is somehow overlaid with this world or another and that is why there are shadowy figures--the shadows of another dimension as viewed from the realm Exael is in.
Uhhh he's also real concerned about the audience and thinks they should also be freed when/if everyone manages to escape. It sure does not seem like they want or really deserve to be here either.
Overall he's pretty deeply alarmed and overwhelmed thinking about it, but there are bits and pieces of it that give him something to direct hopes and focus toward. He very much wants to be involved with it going forward and will make an absolute nuisance of himself to get the access and involvement he wants.
Game B hated the most and why?
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Has Talon talked to Intensity yet!
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What are B's thoughts on alcheme as a whole?
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But B loves them because they're what he has and he's not being bossed around or anything. He has a lot of freedom. On one hand he doesn't trust them to have his back in games and go along with what he wants but. He does trust that they all want him safe and are just trying with their different versions of best. So. He fully expects them all, even C, to kill his loved ones in games and be like. SHRUG. But. That is what it is and he can't change it and B just has to remind himself that it hasn't happened yet so don't worry until it does. And when it does well. That's just a thing that happens and everyone has different priorities and he can't expect their priorities to line up. And they're not doing it to hurt him. Unless they are. But only A or C would do those things and. Well. That seems unlikely to be directed at him.
He thinks they work pretty decently together and doesn't mind having them around! He's closest to C of course, with E and N coming after. But he cares for them all, wants to dote on them all, and in general find ways to make them happy.
What's the coolest off unit power to Talon?
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Aside from Silver, who are B's top 3 fave off unit people?
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Gold: his boyfriend. Really good at making B feel calmer. Full of compliments and kindness. Picks him up for maximum swooning. Has good talks about troubles with.
Mori: his hero. Very kind but also sassy, plays along well with things. Makes B feel safe.
99: this is his bad friend who is bad but he loves him. 99 is an assholes but because he's an asshole B can be one too. They talk about "work" a lot which is the plot of the game. It's a good chance for B to get thoughts out since the others don't show toooo much interest in bigger picture stuff.
Which powers seem the scariest to Talon!
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Bonus 2nd place: the memory fuckery ability that BE=DE has. Kid's already upset enough about losing all his memories in the first place. The idea that someone can come in and alter a memory after he regains it is upsetting on a level he can't even express.
B's 3 least favorite people?
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Whisky cuz he ate B's flesh and made him pet him afterwards in the Betrayal House. While B knows that wasn't him he still can't really be near him either. And he didn't really enjoy him previously either.
The doctor. B doesn't know what he did but it had to be something and mmmm fuck off, weird adult.
Three people Talon is interested in knowing better?
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Gold, because his fave is Silver and he does feel a sense of obligation to know his twin a little bit. Plus Gold didn't annoy him the one time they met.
Pharoah because Talon is a feral child with no taste in who he thinks is cool.
What are B's favorite lives to play in?
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What kind of backstories/home lives does talon imagine people have? Like what does he think Pharoah was doing pre-Imeeji?
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Hmm he knows bits of most teammate backgrounds, but for Whisky he assumes the guy was some kind of assassin. Maybe an actual murderer? For a while he thought Whisky was one of those bad guy with a heart of gold types, but then in the secrets game he was all "I'll do it for money" so he's not sure what to think of it now.
I'm trying to think of someone he doesn't have good clues about. Like Req and her bass from home. Uhhhh if he had to guess at C's background he'd guess escaped lab experiment. Maybe a less dangerous but somehow still worse Frankenstein's monster.
Most people he just assumes had normal lives before getting brought here tho. Just going to school or work and having family bonding time. He hasn't put much thought into trying to guess at anyone's past yet. Just not something he thinks about when there's so much present in Imeeji to deal with instead.
If B could rearrange teams however he wanted, what changes would he make?
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1. An overall impression of Imeeji he got from Aries on his first day
2. A more detailed history of sensitIV and Wild City he got from Lyon in the secrets game.
3. A discussion he had with Whisky about what he learned from Lyon.
The first point really colors his impression of all teams in general, but I think it gives important context to his views on sensitIV, Bad End, and FiN specifically since he has been cautioned about them for various reason. He was cautioned about sensitIV initially because he arrived while WC was in negotiations for an alliance with them, which was only mentioned in passing. He knew nothing else about them and mentally filled in the blanks by himself, and his assumption at the time was something like "this is a strong/useful(?) team", because otherwise why would WC want to ally with them specifically?
He was also a little concerned that there had to be negotiations at all since it suggested there was ssssome sort of tension involved that needed to be resolved before the alliance could be established. Talon didn't make many assumptions regarding what those tensions might be though, mostly because he had more specific and alarming information about FiN to worry about, so he just had a vague sense of Something Going On there, and that's the attitude he met Lyon with! He very specifically approached him to try to get information about the alliance/negotiation since at the time he was still on an info-diet with Silver until he settled in. And boy did he get some info from Lyon. :')
So the first shift in his view of sensitIV happened right about here when he realized Lyon's biggest issue wasn't with WC specifically, but with his own inability to get over whatever had happened between them. It killed a lot of the suspicion he'd been building up in that thread and gave him a more sympathetic, almost worried view of them. Like--he was beginning to think that the tension (which he still didn't have much information on at all) was something that could be overcome, and that's why he pushed Lyon to talk to people on his team about it a little more; to start working through those feelings.
Everyone thank Silver for teaching Talon from day one that talking about feelings is probably a good idea.
Anyway, Lyon began to explain the history between WC and sensitIV in that same thread, as well as some of the unit's actions that weren't strictly related to things WC did (but did have an influence on it), and he talked with Whisky later who filled in some more details for him. For a quick summary as Talon remembers (and as he places emphasis on it):
1. There was a cannibalistic game called The Last Supper which required units to attack and devour each other. If a unit refused to attack, the unit they were matched against in that round would ??? (Talon has assumed they succumbed to madness and devoured their own unit's Heart which! Is pretty gut wrenchingly horrible!)
2. Talon knows Wild City refused to attack sensitIV
3. And that it was Haruto's decision
4. Which was due to a grudge he held from a previous game. Talon did not ask further about this, but assumes it was a death on WC that was caused by sensitIV, most likely Aries or Silver based on what he knows of Haruto's relationships now.
5. He knows Haruto's grudge was caused by someone who was not in their right mind on sensitIV
6. There was another game referred to as The Trial. Talon does not know what took place in The Trial, but does know that sensitIV "made it very clear" that they are capable of opening up peoples' old scars. Talon assumes this was presented as an absolute threat to scare people off of attacking sensitIV in future games. He also knows Lyon was not present for this.
7. The alliance between the two units was formed in spite of all of this.
So! Overall Talon understands that the history between WC and sensitIV is extremely complicated and that it's a confusing mess of intentional and unintentional actions that can't really be picked apart with any kind of logic. People were hurt very badly and very deeply, and he can understand it well enough to see why neither side can let go of the hurt was done. He doesn't see sensitIV as a team of villains so much as another team that has been hurt and damaged and just wants very desperately to be safe. It's not too unlike the way he looks at Wild City, but obvs he has much more bias for WC members because he knows them much more closely and is building bonds and attachments to them that he just isn't ever going to with sensitIV.
That all said, he does still consider sensitIV a potential threat that is only being held back because of the alliance that's in place now. He doesn't think that they have a good understanding of the fact that WC has as much reason to fear and hate them as they do to fear and hate WC. He thinks they're too blinded by the hurt that's been done to them to really see past it, and he's pretty confident that makes them dangerous. Without the alliance in place, Talon is sure they would be a pretty high risk of lashing out against WC in games, so he's going to be especially cautious not to do anything that he believes would put the alliance at risk.
He is also very deeply alarmed by the threat about opening up scars since he has multiple scars that would be unavoidably fatal if opened. :') While he doesn't think he's in actual danger of that right now, it is something he tried to explain to Lyon because he believes they need to understand the actual weight of what a threat like that means to people. If not for the alliance, Talon would be terrified of them until he got his scars removed. As things stand right now he doesn't feel threatened enough to spend the points on it, but if the alliance ever fell through for some reason, then removing his scars would be the very first thing he did.
I feel like I rambled a bit but tl;dr: he thinks sensitIV is one of the most dangerous units here, but does not blame them for developing into that kind of unit and believes he is currently not in danger from them thanks to the alliance between their units.
What are Kija's specific concerns about sensitIV right now?
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(Also chin handing at Talon mentioning Levi =3 )
Since talking a little more with Persephone, Leviathan has come to understand a bit more regarding some of his unit's actions. At first, he noticed that there were people who were very uneasy around him. Not everyone, but he quickly came to realize that there were some people out there that were uncomfortable with SensitIV, despite the fact that SensitIV was a healing unit. B was the first person to explain to him a little of what happened recently that likely resulted in that fear. He learned that at the Trial game, his own unit opened up the wounds of many others, and as a result, it killed a number of people. He later heard even more about the event from Cobalt.
What he learned further from Cobalt was that, traditionally, SensitIV has not been viewed as an offensive unit. But in Cobalt's explanation, he said that without warning or any real explanation, Levi's own unit undid the wounds of the other units present to prove a point. This troubled him even more because he wasn't aware of the specifics of the game, or what reason his own team could possibly have for attacking everyone else in such a manner. This was due to the fact that the conversation led him to believe there were other options his team could have taken that wouldn't have resulted in harming others. Kija can get pretty bloodlusty about fighting, but he also doesn't go out of his way to harm people or try to inflict true injury on a person if it can be helped.
To top off his first impressions, it didn't help that, while everyone in his unit was friendly toward him upon arrival, everyone was....incredibly exhausted and kind of dead to the world. Because they had all just experienced some personal trauma on various levels, and due to the fact that there have been some disagreements within his unit. Levi, however, didn't know about the disagreements and trouble within his unit, so much as everyone was unprepared for a new member to suddenly arrive.
It wasn't until later that he confronted Persephone and asked for an explanation of some kind. His conversation with Perse, however, relieved him somewhat and helped alleviate his worries to an extent (regarding being part of a villain unit. Not about the world in general). What he learned in this conversation was that the trial wasn't as black and white as he had been initially led to believe. He learned that prior to the game, the world had begun to fall apart. People began to lose their memories and the world was turning gray. HSS and BD=DE had banned together to try and figure out how to stop it, but that somehow in their doing so they were possessed and conducted a trial. For this trial, the teams had to prove their team unity and cohesion to the exclusion of other teams. The two losing teams were to be exacuted.
One of SensitiV's unitmates who is no longer there had tried to display unity by having a public breakdown in order to showcase one of their unit traits, but she had refused to otherwise participate. As a result, the judges tortured her in front of the rest of SensitIV. Ultimately, one of the other SensitIV members in the group put an end to everything when they opened up the wounds of the other units present to prove their cohesion as a unit-- which helped them win and stop the game. He suspects that it was Luciful, since he's apologized to Kija in the past and told him that whatever problems he experiences in the unit is probably due to him.
While Levi doesn't know how he feels about what occurred, or what he might have done had he been in their shoes, he doesn't think they had any good choices available to them. As such, he can't blame them for the actions they took at the trial. Particularly in light of watching their friend and unitmate tortured, seeing the world begin to unravel, and knowing that losing meant death to them as a whole. So while none of it makes him happy, he isn't angry or disappointed by the actions they took, because he felt they were desperate and had done their best in an incredibly terrible situation.
Now, he mostly worries about what actions other people might take against his unitmates due to what they did at the trial. He understands the upset and horror people likely experienced as a result, but he wants to protect his unit members from being targetted for the decision they had made in a real desperate situation.
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But Marceline is pretty great in his opinion. She's another one that he doesn't feel the need to guess at motivations for; gets the impression that what she says is what she means, and that she is actually taking him seriously even if she's totes wrong that he's a kid!!! He is going to tell himself that he doesn't really like her because she calls him a kid or tween or whatever, but if he were somehow forced to list friends he would think very hard about naming her probably. Which is a pretty impressive level to reach after one whole thread.
He really appreciates someone who can understand wanting to get all memories back even if there may be A Lot to confront and reconcile with in them. It's something that he has trouble explaining, particularly because he's so new and just can't really pin the reasons down, so it's comforting to just have a shared understanding there. It also gave him the impression that she's been dealing with rough issues in her memories which doesn't mean much for him right now, but as he starts to regain some of the horseshit he's been through it may mean he seeks her out to talk about some of it with. (That is also thanks to the bonus points she gets by being friends with other members of Wild City tho.)
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So, as with most people, Marcy doesn't form tight attachments right away!! But Talon benefits from being part of Wild City AND being a younger kid so she's already kinda endeared to him. She's naturally attracted to strong personalities that range more on the excited/punchy/fighty side as opposed to the haughty/egotistical/intolerable side because those kind of people are fun, and even if Talon doesn't understand how to fun yet she figured he'll learn eventually. Kinda hard to escape in this place.
She doesn't have any super strong feelings for him though, just yet, and mostly seems him as a potential friend and someone she can hang out with in the future. He's pretty cool! So she wants to see how he grows, too, since he seems like one of the youngest people in Fauxkyo.
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First impressions of Talon?
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The biggest point in his favor is how completely at ease Whisky always manages to put him at. It's especially obvious in their latest thread where, even though Talon flat out did not realize it was him at first, he was still relaxed enough just due to Whisky's personality that he didn't mind getting a hair pet. It was surprising even to me since Talon's at a point where he'll kick up at least some level of fuss for anyone outside of Wild City, but Whisky managed to just slip right past that whether Talon knows it's him or not.
Talon trusts him pretty implicitly and will let his guard drop while Whisky's around, because he trusts that Whisky will keep an eye out if he just takes a few minutes to actually let himself relax. And although he recognizes that Whisky does see him as a kid, he does feel like he can get honest answers to hard questions from him. That and being a member of Wild City mean Talon will accept some level of sheltering from Whisky too, if it comes up. Trusts him to take Talon seriously when it matters, and trusts him to have Talon's best interests in mind.
That all said he is p r e t t y uncomfortable with Whisky's stance on murder. I'm not sure how that's going to change once he gets his own assassin memories, but right now he just can't wrap his mind around being willing to kill for something as trivial as money or points or whatever. The only reason he let it drop is because he's innocent enough right now to believe no one's actually ever going to pay Whisky to kill here, so clearly it's not a real concern that matters.
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Whisky in general does well with. Weirdos. Like he's dating Aradia and Lucifel who are both very Off in a sense interaction-wise, so Talon being a very precocious-seeming child fit right into that. Asirpa from his canon is leeess weird child but definitely still has seen some SHIT for her age so he treats Talon in the same sort of light. He won't baby him per se but will be roughly as protective of him as he is as Silver.
It's hard for him to see eye to eye on Talon as far as morality goes as someone who inherently has a pretty fucked idea about the value of life -- or more accurately what one should be feeling killing another person. He realizes Talon's sentiment is a common one but he's also not likely to be dishonest about his own feelings on the matter. Whisky's only concern is if it comes up during a game where there might be HAIRY CHOICES as far as protecting Wild City goes (LOOKS AT WAR ROOM GAME EXCITEDLY)
IF YOU WERE TO APP A SECOND who would it be?
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Rose I am drawn to because her upbringing is just extremely real, and I think I'd have fun exploring that and exploring her being stuck having relationships with people in a closed environment where she can just wander off with the next shiny human she sees when she starts feeling bored.
Amethyst because. Look. I love trash piles who love people and grow from being bad at people/being a person to being good at both those things.
And Pearl because sometimes you just want to play a good lesbian mom with a lot of emotional baggage that she doesn't know what to do with.
also I would change their hair every single time they died even if they have to just cut it themselves.
What are some qualities of your ideal games to play Whisky or Moreau in? Traumatic, non? Specific conflicts they force teams to deal with? Stuff like that.
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Honestly haven't /won't play Moreau in enough games to get a sense for him but w/e!!!
MEMORY YOU'RE MOST LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING BACK FOR TALON
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Damian casually telling his 10 year old bff about going through starvation training. or about his mom murdering his favorite teacher and chucking him in the ocean
or the time one of his brothers admitted he would've adopted Damian if he could
or the time Joker tricked everyone into thinking he cut off all the batkids faces and then made Bruce set them on fire and then dosed them all with his laugh gas so they'd fight to the death
or having a half billion dollar bounty on his head that one time
I guess most immediately a memory that highlights just how bad a mom he actually has, since right now he has as positive a view of her as a kid can have about their mom, and that realization would have some lasting impact in how he behaves and deals with people for a while.
Canonmates you want for Whisky?
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Canonmates you would most want from Batcanon??
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TALIA aka Damian's mom would be fuckin' amazing, but either before her characterization got fucked over so Damian could get the worst childhood ever, or from Rebirth when her fucked characterization got physically removed from her so she could be a good character again. I'm not actually super familiar with her characterization when she's not being World's Worst Mom, but I know it's WAY BETTER THAN BEING THAT, and I would enjoy getting to play with the two of them trying to figure out how to be just a mom and son together, with the knowledge of all the horseshit that happened in canon.
BATMAN because like. Look. It's Batman and Damian's dad, and I think it would be real interesting to have both of them going through amnesia growth arcs where they're both removed from all the trauma that's shaped them. I'm pretty sure they'd be able to connect much better, and it'd be really valuable for Bruce to get to see Damian's memories and reactions to them and generally just be a chance to establish a better relationship than canon is ever going to let them have.
NIGHTWING aka Dick Grayson, the brother Damian loves the most (in that he will probably admit to loving Dick.) Dick got to spend a year raising Damian and was the Batman to his Robin while they thought Bruce was dead. Is also the one who admitted he would've probably adopted him if Bruce hadn't come back. Also Dick should really be around when Damian finds out what a Talon is in canon because only he can truly appreciate just how hilariously bad that is.
JASON TODD aka Red Hood aka the worst bat son. Was the 2nd Robin, got killed, got better but only kind of and now he's a big ol antihero who absolutely will not stop doing murders. His super power is GUN. He's the batkid who is of the opinion that you have to murder villains to stop villains. It's a real point of conflict with Bruce. BUT he is a good guy at heart, even if sometimes he goes off the rails and tries to murder his brothers a little bit. He's the reason Damian needed a new spine, but also tried to mentor him recently in canon and they have some good bro time together. I would want him on Wild City just to see how that goes :U
TIM DRAKE aka the brother that Damian has tried to kill at least a couple of times. To be fair Tim also has Damian on a hit list of "in case they go crazy and try to destroy the world". That's basically the same right??? They super do not get along (though probably there is some neutral interaction that I haven't gotten around to reading yet), but that's largely because Damian was an absolute feral murder child who tried to murder him when he first showed up. Would be cool to see how that changes with amnesia.
There is also CASSANDRA (Black Bat) and STEPHANIE BROWN (Bat Girl) who I am less familiar with because I haven't read their runs yet. But Cass is Damian's sister who was also raised to be an assassin but is VERY NOT OKAY with murder at all, from what I know. And Steph is another Robin who was killed and then kicked out because Bruce has no idea how to deal with dead Robins that aren't Damian. But she's adorable and a delight and I know has some cute interactions with Damian too. :U
uhhh also all references to brothers and sister are due to adoption. Damian has no blood siblings that can be apped anywhere.
OH SHIT ALSO JON KENT FROM SUPERMAN AND SUPERSONS who is Superman's kid and a little ball of joy and sunshine and Damian's best friend. They regularly get lost in space together and fight crime and have sleepovers and shit, and he is probably the only person Damian will call a friend any time soon. Also Damian will lose every single shit if he shows up (once he remembers how much of a shit he gives about Jon).
Whisky's thoughts on Wild City as a whole?
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TALON THINKS that he is settling in just great. He's doing all this good info gathering and learning about the plot and about the teams he's been warned about. He's especially proud of the information he's gained about sensitIV and is busy thinking about how he can work with Leviathan to get the teams to reconcile more than they have. He's glad the alliance is in place, but would like it to be in place with a more solid foundation to support it, basically. He's also been practicing trying to gather information subtly (he believes he is being subtle), focusing on anything he thinks might be helpful to WC. Generally just is running around doing STUFF to try to be a good and useful member of the unit because that's what he's decided he needs to do. And he's pretty sure he's doing a good job because nothing has been ruined yet and people seem to like him for some reason; even people from teams he's been cautioned about!
TALON ACTUALLY is doing okay on all the stuff he thinks he is (except for being subtle), butttt that is not actually going to help him settle. So much of the information he's learning about is past trauma games or how awful the producers and plot are and how fucked everything is in general. And for the time being he is doing alright just hearing things out and telling himself he accepts and understands it, but what is actually happening is that he's setting himself more and more on edge. He's building up an understanding of how terrifying everything can be, which in turn is building up an expectation that everything is going to go terribly. And even if that's true it's still putting a lot of stress on him and helping maintain his suspicious outlook towards anyone he hasn't already met.
For example, he won't be able to meet new members of sensitIV without thinking about how they could just kill him without even blinking (not because he thinks they're evil, just because they literally have a power that can do that). Or like. Just meeting someone new and wondering if they think WC is the worst because of some old game he doesn't know about. He's just got a predisposition to being a little paranoid and it's being exacerbated the more he learns about things here. It is a very good thing that Silver is around to reassure him, and that so many people he's met so far are just good people who've been endeared with him for whatever reason. They're keeping him from starting any kind of stress/paranoia spiral, but like. Cannot stop the stress-motivated drive to seek out more and more information to try to solve the problem of how bad everything here is.
How does Silver think Talon is doing?
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Damian is pretty certain that John doesn't like him, which really just means he appreciates being tolerated well enough to get the medical lessons he's after. He's not sure why John doesn't like him, but frankly he doesn't care about the why behind it. He's been thinking of himself as an abrasive person for a while, so it's actually kind of reassuring to have someone around behaving the way he expects them to. He also believes John is honest in a way that other people aren't with him, in that he doesn't try to soften his reactions or responses to Talon as far as the kid can tell. He appreciates it and does want to build up more of a relationship with him, but one that is businesslike vs any kind of camaraderie. Again, it's just nice to have someone around that he doesn't think is going to pull any punches with him.
Reverse?
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John has a files of different ways to respond if Haruto kills himself, including notes on two past attempts. How would Talon feel about getting those?
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How is John doing with Lilis so far?
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Favorite three people that aren't on Wild City for Talon so far?
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Leviathan is just so disarmingly earnest and kind that Talon has no real defense against him. He views Levi as being the younger one between them (even tho Levi is 20 and he's 13) and feels a vague sense of protectiveness towards him. Part of that is due to viewing Levi as someone who is too kind and naive to really understand the severity of the situation that being in Imeeji is, and part of it is just because Levi is the very first person he met from another team (at a time when he was already inclined to be extra welcoming to sensitIV).
B is an excellent source of information and has proven himself willing to answer Talon's questions seriously, even if the answer is going to be painful or scary to hear. B's a favorite for what he has to offer rather than who he is as a person, but that's likely to change as they have more threads together.
Thorn is unexpected, because Talon had been very wary of BE=DE because of memory altering shenanigans someone did to Aries. :') But! He met Thorn in the secrets game and asked a question or two to try to suss out if he might be behind it, and ultimately decided he wasn't. And with that concern out of the way he just thinks Thorn is kind of cool? The guy seems to take him seriously and doesn't shy away from talking about escaping and tearing this place to the ground, but also manages to be another calming presence at times. It's reassuring to hear someone else talking about how much this place sucks and also to just have casual, calm conversation with.
How's John feel about Wild City right now?
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yeah that answered nothing but shh!!! So, baby's first trauma game? How was that?